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Has fandom chased you away from things you love?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:18 pm
by hpkomic
With all the insane bullshit surrounding Star Wars and fandom, such as the harassment of actors and directors, to the incredibly stupid suggestion they remake The Last Jedi... I find myself drifting away from Star Wars.

This bothers me because I love Star Wars and it is hugely influential to me as a creator... but I just do not want to be associated with such a toxic fandom. Even if they're a super loud and vocal minority they are still drawing unwanted attention to something that I love and causing this cognitive association of "Star Wars fans are abusive assholes" in my mind, and I am sure in the minds of others.

There's been a lot written on this. This SyFy article in particular has a great rundown of the problems with Star Wars fandom in 2018.

It's just not Star Wars though. Do you remember the Steven Universe-incident that led a fan artist to attempt suicide?

I am in full belief that fandom is a toxic mess and I don't know what can be done about that.

Have any things you love been ruined for you lately?

Re: Has fandom chased you away from things you love?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:45 am
by Kota
The MST3k fandom is coming dangerously close to pissing me off but what really killed a series for me is the Doctor Who fandom. I just can't deal with it any more. Doctor Who is a silly little sci-fi show about an old man in a box and people act like it's life or death.
The MST3k thing is REALLY pissing me off though because I don't think I'd be nearly as good a writer if I hadn't found the show. I don't want to be driven off, but no one in these groups actually wants to be happy.

Re: Has fandom chased you away from things you love?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:02 pm
by Modesty
Boy this reminds me when I was young before the internet and I was the ONLY kid in high school that watched anime with a friend. The internet was just gaining traction and sharing fandoms was one of the most exciting things. Fandom for Disney/Pixar's A Bug's Life actual got me into animation and programming. ^^ I did seek out fellow fans to share this with. Because it made me feel that I wasn't alone...FINALLY.

But the change I've seen since the growth of sharing and social media has only served to remind me of dangers. When I like something now, I avoid the internet instead of finding like-minded folk. Probably because now I'm an adult and the demographic of fellow fans is younger. >_> It really doesn't necessarily ruin the thing I love but it can make me change my mind about it. Mostly, it just serves to remind me that people are flawed.

Weirdly enough, sometimes the toxicity of a fandom can change my mind about a series. Two of my co-workers ages ago completely put me off the Mass Effect series. And I was reveling in the hate that fans had for the ending. After that hub-bub, I finally decided to play and actually really enjoyed the series. AND I liked the "controversial ending". :B Because I'm an adult and I knew what would happen. At one point while wearing an N-7 t-shirt, I was stopped by a "random fan" asking if I played the games. I answered that I had. Then he asked what I thought of that ending. "I knew what was coming, and it worked for me. I thought it was great!" And then walked on.

For me, if I like a thing and it is at its core something good, then that doesn't stop me from enjoying a thing. Sometimes I grow out of a fandom because of tempertantrums. But, I don't let the poison of bad Star Wars fans ruin Star Wars for me. One because my parents are Star Wars fans and I love them to pieces. Star Wars, although now I can see the flaws, is still cool. And I LIKE JAR JAR BINKS!!! I was young when the movie first came out but I freaking LOVE his visual designs and personality. LOL.

Fans (Fanatics?) embody the extremes of an emotion at all times for me. It can ruin the enjoyment I have for a thing, but I'm too stubborn to let someone else kill a thing that brings me some amount of joy.

Re: Has fandom chased you away from things you love?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:53 pm
by Ghost
I enjoy Star Wars still, but the original trilogy will always hold a special nostalgia-spell over me. I also really like Steven Universe, but I refuse to be a part of the fandom. One thing that has kept me enjoying the entertainment I like, avoiding fandoms. I do see the toxicity from afar, yet I refuse to let it spoil the enjoyment I have.

It is disheartening to see the level of vitriol spring up from "fans."

"This is why we can't have nice things."

Re: Has fandom chased you away from things you love?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:43 am
by Lightfoot
I haven't seen The Last Jedi yet (although I know most of the details), so I don't really have an opinion about it. I think some of the complaints just stem from the fact that most people wanted new movies with Han, Luke and Leia- and they are less interested in the new characters. There's also a lot of people trying to build movements to shape the movies in a certain way. It happened with The Force Awaken too, everyone trying to ship certain characters together (and asking the actors what they thought about it).

There are some series I've intentionally avoided because of huge crazy fandoms. Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, maybe some others. ...although I don't have cable TV, but I've never looked to see if they are on Netflix or the channel's website.